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March 04, 2009

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Jim Pence

Don't be surprised if you find one of those stuffed in the church bulletin and handed to you by a deacon when you go to church Sunday. That's how it works in rural Kentucky.

Ed Bradford

Do you have any ideal what "small business" means or how much effort is required to start one? If you think putting groceries on shelves is equivalent to figuring out how to finance a large building, buy organic foods, get them delivered in a timely fashion and regularly, organize 10's of workers to shelve, check out, clean, and a hundred other things it takes to run a large grocery store, then you don't deserve to participate in the fruits of the industrial revolution. With your thinking we would all be an agrarian society and as happy and content as the Native Americans before Columbus.

Like it or not, the modern world is a creature of free enterprise and free labor. Simply confiscating other peoples property may be emotionally healing for you, but unfair in the extreme as any penniless 20 year old on the way up the economic latter will tell you.

I suggest you get busy and start climbing that ladder yourself. You won't believe how satisfying it can be AND you can treat all the people you meet on the way up fairly and well. You can become a beacon of light for a new version of free enterprise. Fix it, don't just throw it away.

Mountain Man

James 5:1-6
Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered innocent men, who were not opposing you.

People need to be paid a decent wage instead of having their jobs and livelihood exported. Of course James 5 is evidently not in the Bible that "send it to China" Mitch McConnell reads. If one of these garbage pamphlets is put in a church bulletin I suggest that you that "church" and find a church that worships God.

bf

Every time there's a minimum wage law before congress, the Chamber of Commerce spreads propaganda about how it will kill small businesses. And every time the minimum wage is passed, the economy improves. Organized labor, through collective bargaining, guarantees a healthy middle class in this country. Ever since small minded Babbitts (like Ed Bradford?) started voting for Republicans like Reagan in the 80's, things have gone downhill.

Ed sounds like some right wing gas bag who shops at Wal-Mart to save a nickel on a tube of toothpaste and wonders why all the stores around the town square have closed. Or the guy who voted for Ronald Reagan and then wonders why his plant shut down.

On the other hand, I actually do run a small business, and I don't like paying taxes (especially when they're wasted on bone-headed things like the Iraq War) but I'm paying less taxes as a corporation than I ever paid as an individual. I also employee union members, and pay them over scale (more than the wage scale as per the contract). I get the best people available and do the best work in town. The paper-work is a pain, but I just figure that's part of the price paid for being a success. I personally took two weeks off to go out of state to volunteer for Obama, and my only complaint so far is that he's not liberal enough! Remember, this is coming from a guy who's been making between 150k - 250k for over ten years.

So when I hear guys squawk about how hard it is to run a business, I think to myself, "yeah, I know how hard it is. Do you? Maybe you're doing it wrong".

Now I'm going to STFU and get back to work. Yeah, that's right! I work, too!

Richard Dillon

bf,

Brilliant comment!!

James Clayton

More union propaganda. As businesses struggle to stay afloat and avoid layoffs, we are to believe that they have nothing better with their time than shut down production and talk to their employees about EFCA.

Richard Dillon

James Clayton,

Far from propoganda. I have been through a union fight and that is exactly what they did. Shut down production, brought the owners and a bunch of their lawyers into the warehouse, and called several two hour meetings on company time.

If companies would pay worth a crap then they would not have to worry about their workers seeking a union now would they?? But just think, if the EFCA passes, then companies wouldn't have to waste all that time talking to their employees about it. They can take the time to negotiate a contract, and then have much happier, more productive workers with more money to pump into the economy.

Mountain Man

I have never worked for a Union but I have nothing against a Union. All that a Union does is negotiate a contract so that everyone knows what to expect. I worked for a small business when I lived in Nashville, TN and did not get paid for a large number of hours that I worked. I was told that I would have to furnish computers for customers at my own expense. The manager kept telling me that he knew that I was afraid of losing my job. Oh by the way did I mention that the manager of the company was a white guy from South Africa and admitted several times to using cocaine? There were three people that quit that company, myself included, within a three week period. All this talk about going to the labor board is hog wash. After all we did have a secretary of labor until recently that thought that the American workers have hygiene problems and need anger management classes. The only reason that an employer would not want a labor Union is because the employer wants to "see what they can get by with". It really amazes me when people want you to "help them with something" but if the same person who is in business does something for you or someone else they want to get paid for it. This is why some people have money and some don't. You will see these very people in church on Sunday. I have seen it happen over and over. We need to quit electing people like "send it to China" McConnell. Usually I am not that hard to get along with but if I met Mitch McConnell face to face I would have no problem showing him my center digit and telling him that he can do to himself what husbands and wives do to each other. This also goes for that low life SOB George Bush (and I don't mean "Swell Ole Boy"). I used to be a card carrying member of the Republican Party. When the psychic worshiping Ronald Reagan began his low classed crap of job exportation to Mexico I changed my mind. But if you will remember, that low classed Bob Dole used to tell us that "if we don't help them they will go Communist". I guess that Mitch McConnell might be saying the same about China except that China has been under Communism since 1949 so Mitch that dog won't hunt. But then there is ex-Vice President Danny Dumb ass Quayle who thinks that if you walk like a duck, quack like a duck, and live in China you can't be a Communist. Well I think that Mr. Jintao and the Chinese Communist Party has proven him wrong. By the way, ever wonder why Labor Unions are illegal in Communist Countries? Think about what Mitch McConnell said about labor unions before the November 1998 elections. See any similarities?

Mountain Man

The next to last sentence in the post on March 5, 2009 by Mountain Man is incorrect. The corrected sentence is as follows:
"Think about what Mitch McConnell said about labor unions before the November 2008 elections".

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